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Khalistan: Undesirable, Unnecessary or Inevitable?

by I.J. SINGH

 

 

Editor's Note:   After the stormy decade of the 1980's in which the question of Khalistan became a defining issue, the years that followed mercifully saw a time of relative quiet both within Punjab and the Sikh communities in the diaspora.  Even then many of the issues that fueled the insurgency, including the many unfulfilled promises of India's leaders, along with the lack of justice and transparency, remained unaddressed.  Surprisingly, in the past few months, in Canada of all places, Khalistan has again returned to center stage starting with some injudicious remarks ascribed to the Indian Prime Minister, Manmohan Singh.  Now, many politically ambitious Sikhs and non-Sikhs - seeing an opportunity for publicity - have jumped into the fray.  The ethnic Indian press is once again painting Sikhs as terrorists - all over some slogans shouted and and photos displayed during a Vaisakhi parade!

The following essay was written in 1994 at the height of the insurgency, which flowed from the Indian government's crimes and excesses against Sikhs in Punjab and elsewhere in India.  Much has since changed but the issue of Khalistan deserves revisiting, hence this reprint today.

 

 

In writing this, the usual reason - to convey a point of view - is reinforced by a better one, to initiate a debate.

Debating Khalistan is an impossible assignment and an onerous chore in some ways. Yet it is only in debate that we hone our skills, sharpen our focus and define our goals. And we should not be afraid to take on sacred cows. This discussion is particularly timely because in recent years a litmus test of political correctness has emerged by which to judge a Sikh. If your opinions fall even a hair short of total support for the idea of Khalistan you are quickly branded anti-Sikh. And this is unfortunate. This debate needs a devil's advocate for an impossible cause and I am that - a devil's advocate.

The word "Khalistan" conjures some very disturbing images among Indians; people still remember the painful birth of Pakistan. The Indian government has used the recent demand for Khalistan by Sikhs for some petty and inane policies which are more likely to make that dream of many come true. Many nasty suggestions were made regarding the Sikhs ('Send them to Pakistan!) by many Hindus, including Rajiv Gandhi. The reality is somewhat more complex.

Certainly the Sikhs need no lessons in patriotism. It has been repeatedly and clearly established that during the struggle for India's independence, the sacrifice of the Sikhs was far in excess of their proportion in the country; fully 70 to 80 percent of all freedom fighters who were arrested, sentenced, exiled or hanged by the British were Sikhs.

Within a few years of independence, Sikhs had transformed the Punjab into the richest province of India with the highest standard of living. Where India used to have famines every year, now thanks to the Punjabi Sikh farmers, the country can even export food. In many ways India owes its unity and integrity to the Sikh soldiers who served it so well in its three wars against Pakistan and one against China.

How is it that things changed so much so soon?

Before the attack on the Golden Temple in June 1984 on Guru Arjan's Martyrdom Day, one could perhaps count on the fingers of one hand the number of Sikhs who would opt for an independent sovereign Republic of Khalistan. After the massacre of innocent Sikhs in November, 1984 and the subsequent repressive policies of the Indian government directed solely against the Sikhs, one could count on the fingers of one hand the number of Sikhs who would not chose Khalistan.

This striking shift occurred within months of the attack on the Golden Temple. Rather than being angry at the Sikh  community's  response, frustrated by it or afraid of it, one should understand that such dramatic swings are not to be taken lightly but are not necessarily etched in stone either. The longer such feelings last, the more entrenched they become and harder to dislodge. The Rubicon may well have been crossed in this matter. The massive increase in the demand for Khalistan indicates that the Sikhs are not sure of their place in India. When the present is slippery the future appears menacing.

Blaming a foreign hand as Indira and Rajiv Gandhi often did is escaping responsibility; an objective view would be more useful.

Pakistan has been consistently accused of fomenting and fanning rebellion in Punjab and Kashmir. Not that there is much proof of it but even if it were true, an outsider can only exploit a house divided where discord already exits. If people who have sacrificed so much for the unity, integrity and viability of India for so long now no longer want to be a part of it, there are only two possible explanations. Either most of the 15 million Sikhs were struck by lightning and have lost all reason or there is merit in what they say; one must look at what the Indian government has promised or delivered to them in the past 45 years.

The Sikhs have long said that the promises made to them by Mahatma Gandhi and Jawahar Lal Nehru before 1947 have not been honored. It was for this reason that the Sikh members of the Constituent Assembly of independent India did not initial their acceptance of the Constitution of India. The record of documents and speeches exists and is simple enough to verify. To have to wait and agitate for 45 years for promises to be fulfilled is indeed to have to wait too long. By now, all promises should have been dealt with - fulfilled or negotiated, but certainly resolved.

At this time, most Sikhs feel that in India, justice is selective and politics reign supreme. Again, important here is not only the reality but also its perception. To dismiss this feeling as mere hallucination (of 15 million people?) would be compounding an injustice with stupidity.

When Sikhs look at the 500 years of their history, it surprises them that anyone should question their loyalty or their right to live with dignity on their own terms in India. In spite of long-standing disaffection with the Indian government, the Sikhs' loyalty was not questioned when they defended India against China or Pakistan, nor was it in doubt when Punjab contributed to India's independence or economic recovery. In essence, today's Sikh is saying: "My loyalty to the country is a matter of history; to ask me to take a loyalty oath is an insult. I do not have to prove my fitness for a place of dignity here. You, who have done me wrong and are in such a larger majority than I, have to show me that you wish me to remain a part of India."

To whom is this addressed? To the Indian government and the majority community.

It is necessary to remember that despite the attack on the Golden Temple and the widespread state terrorism directed specifically against them, Sikhs did not rebel en masse.

Examine this behavior of the Sikhs in the context of what Lincoln said at his first inaugural in 1861: "If by the mere force of numbers a majority should deprive a minority of any clearly written constitutional right, it might, in any moral point of view, justify revolution . . .".

Indira Gandhi who probably wanted a strong united India, will be remembered as the one who fragmented the people and dismembered the country.

If the Indian government cannot act swiftly, decisively and effectively to assure the Sikhs of justice and security, it will never regain its right to govern nor should it. The Sikhs then would have little choice but to carve out a homeland of their own. Khalistan, no matter how small or imperfect, would then become a reality. Demands of human dignity will prevail and, be it ever so humble, be it ever so meager, Khalistan will also exist among the nations of the world. No army and no governmental rhetoric will be able to prevent it. And at this time the Indian government has clearly lost any claims to the hearts and minds of the Sikhs.

I submit to you that the conventional arguments why Khalistan is not viable - they are nonsense. That the country would be small or landlocked and its economic base limited - these things do not matter. The country would be larger than many member states of the United Nations, its economy better than that of many emerging nations in Eastern Europe.

In recent years, many Sikhs have presented most lucidly all the good arguments for Khalistan - the broken promises, systematic injustice to the Sikhs, all the history, etc.

But as T.S. Eliot reminds us, "History has many cunning passages, contrived corridors and issues, deceives with whispering ambitions. Guides us by vanities."

The issue of Khalistan is not all black or white. It is not Khalistan now or Khalistan never; it is perplexing.

I can present several good reasons why Khalistan is not desirable. Never in their history have Sikhs set about to conquer territory, subjugate people in the name of religion or establish Sikhism as state religion. Ranjit Singh for instance was a ruler who happened to be a Sikh and not a particularly good one at that in his later years, he was much better at being a ruler. He did not establish Sikhism as the state religion. His administration was secular. His Punjab remained a multireligious country. It did not become a Sikh Punjab.

Let us look at it somewhat differently. I am a minority no matter where I live - in India or wherever. When I came here in 1960 there were two Sikhs in New York; in Oregon where I went to school, I was the only one. Many of you share that experience. Except in Punjab, even in India I remain a minuscule minority. A part of me says "wouldn't it be nice, wouldn't it be right if there was little bit of dirt, a little part of this earth which was mine, where I was the king?"

And that says - Khalistan now.

Another part of me says where I hold sway, there will be someone else - a non-Sikh - who will not, whose sensitivities will be ignored, whose rights will be a little abridged, who will not be the chosen one, who will be second class for no fault except that he is not a Sikh. And that is not the Sikh way. That says to me that countries based on religious identity alone are not desirable. Two examples that come to mind are Pakistan and Israel.

But what is undesirable can become historically necessary and even inevitable. Again Pakistan and Israel come to mind. Two thousand years of diaspora, bigotry, suffering and pogroms convinced the Jews and the world of the necessity and the inevitability of a Jewish homeland. Before the formation of Pakistan in 1947, the demand was not a longstanding one. Just before India's independence, Mahatma Gandhi and three others dominated the political scene - Nehru, Patel and Azad. Nehru - the father of Indira Gandhi, became India's first the Prime Minister, Patel was the home minister, and Azad - the sole Muslim, others were Hindus - was the education minister.

Azad wrote his diaries which were sealed for a number of years after his death and finally opened a couple of years ago. In them he put the blame for Pakistan squarely on Nehru. He claimed that Nehru and his Hindu dominated political party was most reluctant to share power with the Moslems and the Moslems were suspicious of the Hindus. Result: a partition of the country and Pakistan became not only necessary but inevitable.

Seems like history may be repeating itself in Punjab.

The partition of the country in 1947 carried a horrendous price tag. Nations are formed when there is a shared culture, language, history and so on, not necessarily religion only. The Sephardic and Ashkenazy Jews in Israel do not get along all that well even though both are Jews. Religion alone could not hold together Pakistan and Eastern Bengal, now Bangladesh. Someday, I am sure, Bangladesh and Indian Bengal would want to come together as Greater Bengal, based not on religion but on culture, as can be seen in the reunification of Germany.

The demand for Khalistan has to be looked at in perspective. Before 1984, no responsible Sikh leader demanded Khalistan with one exception: Jagjit Singh Chauhan who is London-based and has been asking for Khalistan for over 20 years. I met him in the seventies and he was a voice in the wilderness, not many gurdwaras would give him the time of day.

In 1984, Bhindranwale did not plant a flag and declare, "No more India, we are Khalistan - a separate, sovereign country" -  although there was sufficient provocation. Nor did any other Sikh leader. 

When Pakistan was formed in 1947, the Sikhs suffered - we lost a lot. The refugee problem was worse than in Europe after the second world war. The lives lost! We also lost a substantial part of our heritage. The birthplace of Guru Nanak, the historical places in Lahore and Punja Sahib, to name a few.

If Khalistan were to be carved today, we would lose a lot more of our inheritance. The Gurus did not live and preach only in Punjab. They traveled all over India from Assam and Bengal to the South. More importantly, look at our people. The Sikhs are an outgoing, assertive, outward looking people. They would not be satisfied for long, hemmed in a mini-country with limited opportunities. Soon the borders would be strained. Pakistan is friendly now, but for how long?

Remember, only people and individuals have friendships, nations do not; they have only self-interest to guide them. The words Pakistan and Khalistan literally mean the same - "land of the pure" in their respective languages. How neighborly will be two lands of the pure and for how long?

If Khalistan is undesirable, has it become necessary and inevitable?

Now that the demand for Khalistan has surfaced, how hard a demand is it? Is it written in stone? I am not sure, even though I realize that once the genie is out of the bottle, it is difficult if not impossible to push it back.

Despite all the injustice to the Sikhs, in 1985 Longowal and the Sikhs signed an accord with the Indian government - to give peace another chance. Too bad that the Indian government of Rajiv Gandhi did what Indira Gandhi had done earlier; they did not fulfill their promises but delivered more repression. Again in 1989, the Sikhs participated in the electoral process, won by landslides, welcomed the new Prime Minister V.P. Singh into a peaceful, open Punjab - no security was necessary. By this act they clearly showed the world that they were not rejecting ties to India, only that the nature of the ties had to change. Until only one year ago, Simranjit Singh Mann was still looking for a solution within the Indian constitutional framework. Too bad that the government delivered what it always did - more repression.

Nations cannot be bonded by force as the Soviets have discovered but only by enlightened self-interest. The West-Europeans are learning that closer political and economic ties can be beneficial to all - of course there is resistance because of the history of centuries of suspicion, war and bloodshed. It can't be easy for any of the Europeans to comfortably trust the Germans. If the Soviets had disbanded earlier, a looser, cooperating confederation of nations might have resulted - now the Ukrainians, the Lithuanians and the Estonians are at each others throats. Just look at Yugoslavia.

India awaits a similar fate and needs enlightened leadership.

I can visualize the whole Indian subcontinent - including Pakistan and Bangladesh - remarcated into several secular nation-states based on culture, language and economic interest; the level of cooperation to be determined by their self-interest and their shared history. As it is, I find that most of us Sikhs have more in common with the culture of Punjab and that means Pakistan than with the rest of India where I can only communicate in English.

In post-independence India, the only cultural phenomenon that may be the uniting glue of modern India appears to be the Hindi movie industry. Any nation deserves better. I would like to see the nation-states free to pursue their own economic and cultural development and not be under the heels of remote bureaucrats in Delhi. Only then will they be able to preserve their rich heritage and contribute to the diversity and richness of the Indian subcontinent.

To my mind the Sikhs have clearly rejected the model of the present Indian governing system. Khalistan though undesirable has become increasingly necessary, primarily because of the shortsighted policies of the Indian government. Has it become inevitable?

By now events have probably already overtaken what I have written here, but when I look at my views I have to echo Walt Whitman who said, "Do I contradict myself?. Very well then I contradict myself. (I am large, I contain multitudes.)"

The issue of Khalistan can and should be debated but it will eventually be decided not in New York, London or New Delhi but in the streets and villages of Punjab. In the meantime, Sikhs everywhere support the legitimate aspirations of our people in the Punjab in whatever form they are expressed.

One thinks of Jefferson who said, "I weep for my country when I reflect that God is just."

 

[This article was first published, in its original form, as an essay in Sikhs & Sikhism: A View With a Bias, by I.J. Singh, 1998. The Centennial Foundation, Guelph, Ontario, Canada. It has been edited for republication.]

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June 1, 2010

Conversation about this article

1: Irvinder Singh Babra (Brampton, Ontario, Canada), June 01, 2010, 12:14 PM.

I would like to see a fresh take on this issue by I.J.Singh - a la 2010!

2: Jagpal Singh Tiwana (Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada), June 01, 2010, 4:30 PM.

Circumstances have changed now in India. We had a Sikh army Chief, Gen J J Singh. We have a Sikh Prime Minister. People in Punjab voted for a Congress Govt. in Punjab. Delhi Sikhs suffered the most in 1984. Their Gurdwara Committee, DSGMC, is known for its pro-Congress stance. We hardly hear of Khalistani aspirations in India now. Dr. I.J. Singh should write a new article, keeping the present situation in view.

3: N. Singh (Canada), June 01, 2010, 5:51 PM.

How have things changed? You mean the 'genocide' strategies of the Indian government are more subtle now than a full-on frontal attack of 1984? Discriminating policies in water rights means that Punjab is slated to become a desert state in 10-15 years; unemployment is at an all time high compared to other states; alcohol and drug problems plague the state with no government intervention; English is not taught to Punjabi children until Grade 6 compared to Grade 1 in other states, so the level of literacy is at an all time low; farmer suicides are on the increase; environmental toxins due to government-encouraged use of toxic fertilizers is leading to genetic deformities, compared to other state ... perhaps I.J. Singh should do an article on that called "Ghetto-ization and demoralization of ethnic groups with particular emphasis to Sikhs and the Punjab"! Does it mean, now that we have had a Sikh Army Chief and PM, that all is fine for the Sikhs and we should 'kiss and make up' with the majority? Just because the people of Punjab get to 'chose' their oppressors doesn't mean that democracy exists ... we hardly hear of Khalistani aspirations because people are too 'scared' to speak up. Too scared of being denied visas to India, too scared of the media thrashing as per the recent events in Canada. Sikh youths get harassed in the Punjab by the police for wearing T-shirts of Bhindranwale. Do you think people are going to speak of Khalistan in public? What a naive and blinkered point of view!

4: S. Singh (United Kingdom), June 01, 2010, 6:05 PM.

I have recently been hearing from hundreds of youths all over the UK and their families on the need for a separate Sikh nation if we are to survive. How viable this is I don't know but it does seem there is almost a 75% support amongst Sikhs, with the remaining 25% happy in the western countries.

5: Gabru (Australia), June 01, 2010, 6:26 PM.

There is a much bigger issue facing Punjab at the moment, and none of our failed leaders are taking any initiative to resolve it. Punjab is affected by a new disease, Poverty, with high debts ridden on by farmers with extreme interest rates. These people are reverting to suicides, some are even converting. I wonder where the SGPC/ Badal dal and the likes are ... they have raped Punjab. We haven't really progressed far as a state, we still lack the basic infrastructure such as Sewage Treatment Plants (STPs), proper road infrastructure, Water Treatment plants (some villages on the border belt near Jallabad are resorting to drinking muddy/ polluted water), which causes polio and other diseases in the population ...

6: Manohar Singh  (Toronto, Ontario, Canada), June 01, 2010, 7:12 PM.

Look at this. We, the Sikhs don't enjoy the basic right to express ourselves. We are told by many what to think, what to say, how to educate our children, etc. And, this is not true only in India, but in Canada as well. A Canadian MP suggests that if we educate our children about Sikh history, we are glorifying violence. If we have independent ideas, we are extremist. The Indian PM has been making false statements, and the Canadian government and media are swallowing it all. Simple question: Why is the Indian government continuing to attack Sikhs throughout the world? We need to examine the past, see what is happening at the present and where we want to be in the future.

7: J. Kaur (Canada), June 02, 2010, 12:40 AM.

I think the dream is no longer about Khalistan, the dream is the self delusion that we can survive in India. Do you really believe that elevating one puppet means that the Sikhs can now live in peace in India? Then you are the one who is dreaming ...

8: I.J. Singh (New York, U.S.A.), June 02, 2010, 8:50 AM.

Some readers have pointedly suggested that the topic begs for a newer more current take on the issue of Khalistan. I agree; hence this brief comment for now. I agree that some positive changes are evident in the Indian social and political landscape over the past few years; notably the ascension of Manmohan Singh (who still lacks a political constituency of his own), General J.J. Singh and Montek Singh Ahluwalia; and relaxing of governmental control over the press. Even Bollywood seems to be adjusting to new realities. But the elephants in the room that the Indian society refuses to see are the massive lack of justice since 1984 and the negation of the independent identity of Sikhism in the Indian Constitution. Somewhat rough parallels that come to mind are the historical struggle for racial equality and the injustice done to Japanese-Americans in the United States. Now we see that the accommodation available to many of the other rebel groups in India is not being extended to Sikhs who raised their voices for Khalistan. This casts a heavy shadow on the Indian government's intentions or clear-headedness, if any. It seems to me that what we have between the Sikhs and the Indian government is a truce, apparently somewhat comfortable now but with an underlying sense of mistrust, discomfort and unease. Keep in mind that a truce or cease fire is not peace which is a state of mind. It is more a state of uneasy watchfulness. Don't forget that there are global strategic and economic realities at play here as well. The earlier essay posted here was meant to provide the historical and contextual framework for Khalistan. Many of those issues remain; therefore, the cause of Khalistan remains seething subsurface, but not too deep. (Notice how quickly it has broken through the surface now.) I look forward to analytical comments by readers that I can then mine for a new page on Khalistan. The purpose is neither to justify nor promote it, nor to deny, decry or deride it, but merely to explore it from all angles.

9: N. Singh (Canada), June 02, 2010, 11:16 AM.

Here are my thoughts ... let me begin by saying 'ignorance is bliss'. When I was happily living my life as an integrated, educated woman in the West, I was oblivious to the issue of Khalistan ... even angry that the Sikhs just won't get on and get over it. However, since the day I actually took responsibility to educate myself on the issue, I have come to the realization that Khalistan is the only way forward. Now I am angry at Bhindranwale not because he wanted a Khalistan but because he didn't ... that he didn't make an official declaration of freedom which would have led to mass support from rural Punjab and an uprising whereby the men we ended up losing through the butchery of the Indian police and military would have died honourably ... either way, there was bloodshed, so why not die as lions? In addition to the issues mentioned by I.J. Singh, as well as my comments concerning the present state of Punjab which is no mere accident, the idea that Khalistan would be a theological state is dated. Khalistan, like England, would be a secular state, however the dominant religion would be Sikhi (just like Anglicanism is in the U.K.)! We need the western model, not the Islamic one ... observation of the Sikh calendar, holidays, naming of streets, together with a system designed to further the interests of all who live in it ... like in the U.K., U.S. and Canada. Secondly, I don't buy the idea that the promotion of figures like PM Manmohan Singh (who has compromised his integrity) is a fair exchange for the mistreatment of ordinary Sikhs in the Punjab. I understand that there are certain sections of Sikhs who have close family lies with Hindus and have never lived in the Punjab ... however, they need to think beyond their own selfish interests to the well-being of all Sikhs and future generations to come. If they are unhappy, then they are welcome to leave and merge back with their Hindu ancestors ... Sikhi is not holding anyone by force. All are welcome to embrace or leave it! The issue of loss of heritage sites outside of the Punjab is a small price to pay ... these are mere bricks and mortar. Once established, the Sikhs will then be able to develop treaties with India to visit these sites on pilgrimages. The issue of Khalistan is not necessarily a religious one. This is the idea being put forward by Indian propaganda. Instead, it is one of economic, social and national survival.

10: Jaimal Singh (France), June 02, 2010, 12:39 PM.

I believe there is nothing wrong with the idea of Khalistan. It is perfectly viable. And, if India continues with its shenanigans, Khalistan will not only become desirable and necessary, but India's own crimes and excesses will make it inevitable. With that said, however, the problem I have is with the current crop of 'Khalistanis'. They have a lot of passion but, sadly, aren't the brightest lights around. Others have called them idiots and nincompoops - I won't quarrel with them on their choice of words. We need to replace these bufoons - who have no sophistication, language skills, emotional intelligence, or ability to look beyond their noses - with statesmen who have the ability to set aside their personal biases and interests, look at long-term strategies and follow the path of least resistance and maximum results.

11: G.C. Singh (U.S.A.), June 02, 2010, 1:08 PM.

I must commend Dr. I.J. Singh for bringing up the difficult topic of Khalistan which no doubt continues seething under the surface no matter what the apologists for the Indian state want us to believe. The betrayal of the Sikhs by the cunning Hindu leadership and refusal to share political, military and economic power remains the real issue and must be solved to the satisfaction of the Sikhs. For Sikhs, the greatest threat to their very existence is policy of the majority which is bent upon our assimilation and subjugation by all means. The elevation of Manmohan Singh and Gen JJ Singh, which are often cited as examples of things getting better is driven more by emotions rather than cold hard reality. To base the future of a nation on short-term symbolism is dangerous and suicidal. We have already seen this story before when Khushwant Singh in his newspaper columns gloated how Sikh prayers of "Raj Karega Khalsa" have come true by the appointment of Zail Singh as President Of India. How quickly we forget the recent history when mass murders, rapes and burnings of thousands of Sikhs was happening in New Delhi and a symbolic Sikh who was commander-in-chief of the armed forces was completely helpless to deploy soldiers to save his community. What we need is REAL power, not a few crumbs doled to us at the mercy of others and REAL physical means to defend ourselves against the kind of events that we have witnessed for the last 26 years. It is up to the Indian government to show if it wants to give Sikhs their rights as equals, or force them to look for other options.

12: Jabeen Kaur (United Kingdom), June 02, 2010, 4:15 PM.

My greatest fear is that ordinary Sikhs are being silenced by the vocal majority who like to portray themselves as 'moderates' and create hysteria about terrorism. People are too scared to speak out about Khalistan and to be seen as supporting it for fear of being labeled a terrorist by Western counterparts or being harassed by the Indian government. Somehow cunning and clever people have utilized the banner of moderation to silence genuine expression and yet it is these same moderators who are terrorists against a civilized society. They are the wolves in sheep clothing ...

13: H. Singh (Canada), June 02, 2010, 4:28 PM.

Today, the Leader of the Liberal party in Canada, Michael Ignatieff, has refused to support the political motion to label the November 1984 pogroms as a 'genocide'. He characterized the genocide and organized killing of Sikhs as 'a highly-charged atmosphere of religious tensions' and that 'describing these events as genocide is not accurate or appropriate.' Likewise when an Canadian immigration official denied a visa to an ex-member of Border Security Force, a paramilitary group, describing it as 'notoriously violent', Canadian politicians have been apologizing to the Indian government since! Why? Because the Indians have their own state and trade relations ... what do the Sikhs have? A begging bowl ... where we seek justice from other people for crimes committed against us. Until we have real power and freedom, we will always be destined to be at the mercy of others and be treated as second class citizens. If a few of us reach a position of prominence ... it will always be at the price of selling out our values a la PM Manmohan Singh and others!

14: S. Kaur (U.S.A.), June 02, 2010, 11:15 PM.

Here is an extract from the Indian Army Bulletin, 'Baatcheet', Serial 153, dated June 1984 ... "Any knowledge of the "Amritdharis" who are dangerous people and pledged to commit murder, arson and acts of terrorism should be immediately brought to the notice of the authorities. These people may appear harmless from outside but they are basically committed to terrorism ..." Notice the reference to Amritdharis. I would like to point out that neither PM Manmohan Singh or General J.J. Singh are Amritdharis. Both have strong family ties with the Hindus. Manmohan Singh has two daughters who are married into Hindu families and General J.J. Singh has a Hindu wife. This is relevant to this discussion since they have been cited here as examples of Hindu acceptance and tolerance of Sikhs! Does this mean that all Sikhs now need to marry into Hindu families to be accepted by Hindus, or is it that they only accept Hindu-ized Sikhs into their fold! Is it not telling that neither of these men have done one single iota to help another Sikh ... but have put the Hindu majority on the map? Why?

15: Surinder (Massachusetts, U.S.A.), June 03, 2010, 12:22 PM.

Khalistan is an issue that I find very intriguing. I have a very simple question: Can someone point out to me a map of the proposed Khalistan? With all the energy behind this movement, why can we not find a single map on any Khalistani web site?

16: Kanwar (Toronto, Ontario, Canada), June 03, 2010, 12:32 PM.

Where Sikhs seem to fail time and again is in elevating good leaders. In recent history, we have suffered due to a lack of leadership at pivotal moments. Despite what you may think of such men, we needed a leader with the political acumen/ cunning of Jinnah and Nehru during the independence movement. That was the time when Khalistan should have come into being and, despite our mounmental sacrifices, the moment was lost. We keep elevating these (ill educated) pious types who achieve next to nothing for the community despite a popularity with the base. Perhaps we have a predisposition to religious leadership because it started that way with our Gurus. But that mindset needs to change. We will never accomplish nationhood without elevating more secular minded and educated Sikhs into positions of influence. However, I don't know if that is possible, given the fact that such leaders would have less pull within Punjab's peasantry.

17: Harinder (Banagalore, India), June 03, 2010, 12:55 PM.

The status of the nation will be like that of Israel, Taiwan or the Baltic countries. It is a choice no one can make. Let us leave few things to Waheguru.

18: Taran (London, United Kingdom), June 03, 2010, 4:31 PM.

I have grown 30 plus. To be honest, I am getting a bit adrift from my religion. Though I am born a Sikh and have lived as well to some extent, I have seen the so-called hardcores, liberals and almost all other types amongst us but now I don't know what but I see that although our Ten Gurus started the religion for the benefit of mankind, we have polluted this sacred sarovar so much as I myself feel scared to take a dip into it. To move on to to the actual topic of Khalistan, I must say that if I have ever seen a Guru ka Sikh or true Sikhi, then all I have learned is that a Sikh holds up for the entire humanity. A Sikh is never scared because he/ she has not done anything wrong or would do anything wrong! Today when I look at us so-called Sikhs, I always get confused that are we really entitled to call ourselves Sikhs? May it be Master Tara Singh, Sant Fateh Singh, Harchand Singh Longowal or today's Badal and Makkars, or any other prominent Sikh leader, they have all shied away from standing tall as true Sikhs! They have all played into the hands of shrewd and crooked brahmins. Only a few of the brave ones stood for the righteous cause (but they were all sacrificed). Today, when I read articles by I.J. Singh or read the news of the events happening in Canada or elsewhere, I always see that we so-called Sikhs are fighting against each other. Some for Khalistan and others against it! Can we just stop this for a moment and all be united for a righteous cause. That may be the discrimination meted out by the Indian govt. or delayed and denied justice in the Delhi courts re innocent Sikhs killed in '84. Can we just be united on a couple of issues that affects us if we are true Sikhs? Can we mobilize the people in Canada, U.S.A., England and India? That would be the TURNING POINT! Can I.J. Singh or any one else do something about it? There are plenty of issues (righteous ones) which affect us as Sikhs. Forget Khalistan for a moment. Let's build up our strength from the first step and then we go up the ladder, one step at a time. Also talking about India, I have spent a big chunk of my life there and I can tell you all that India is a sleeping volcano! When it finally erupts, then you would not see any minority as small as Sikhism or Christianity or Islam left there. As I said in the beginning, that I am somewhat feeling drifting! That's the state of today's Sikhs! And the reason behind that is that I cannot draw strength from my community. I hardly ever did. Because ... Because I have always seen our people at loggerheads with each other. Taking each other's turbans off in full public view! Sarbat da Bhalla! And foremost, Sikh Quom Da! Because we are in urgent need of it!

19: Surinder (Massachusetts, U.S.A.), June 03, 2010, 7:18 PM.

What hold does Khalistan have on a Bihari Sikh, UP Sikh, Sindhi Sikh? Khalistan is a Punjabi Sikh issue only; I have not seen any convincing argument to the contrary. Why would a White American Sikh support Khalistan? We must realize that Sikhism is not a Punjabi faith only. The Punjabi Sikh leaders will try to drag Sikhism through the Khalistan path, irrespective of whether it makes sense for any non-Punjabi Sikh or not.

20: Bal Singh (London, United Kingdom), June 03, 2010, 8:14 PM.

This is such a knotty issue. Yes, people have identified lots of valid reasons for Khalistan. Sikhs do seem voiceless and powerless in today's globalized world. We are reduced to mere tokenism everywhere. But I believe we need to address many issues before we even consider Khalistan. Foremost is the disgusting oppression we engage in between ourselves as Sikhs and Punjabis. The state of hiss (to put it mildly) between various caste groups in the ancestral Sikh homeland is disastrous. What kind of warped, sick society would we create in a Khalistan with caste discrimination and nepotism being rampant in our community? What about the economy? What will we do, sell fruit and vegetables to the world? The truth is that Punjabi Sikhs in India have no idea of global politics and seem stuck in an insular world. Until our thinking is somewhat globalized and we create leaders of a world class calibre, what chance do we have in successfully running a nation? That too, sandwiched between two hostile neighbors and with no international support either. As a community, we need to 'up our game' in so many domains before we can even think of a Khalistan for ourselves.

21: Gurteg Singh (New York, U.S.A.), June 03, 2010, 11:03 PM.

Many comments on this topic about the plight of Sikh politics may be true, but that does not mean that we have to wait for decades and centuries so that we are "prepared to handle our own country". In fact most of our problems are the direct result of our slavery and occupation by a brutal enemy who will do any thing and every thing to divide and rule, humiliate, destabilize and give those Sikhs who are willing to compromise their principles prominent roles so that they can assist our enemy in finishing us from within. Some of the comments, although born out of frustration because of the unsavory elements who are now firmly entrenched in our religious and political institutions, also show an inferiority complex vis a vis the Indian Hindu leadership. How is it that mass murderers, criminal, corrupt and caste-ridden leaders who rule India are better than what we may have in a free country of our own?

22: N. Singh (Canada), June 03, 2010, 11:41 PM.

Bal Singh and Taran: I believe you both have valid arguments and there is a lot of work that needs to be done internally! Leadership and unity is key. Surinder: let's be reminded that the Nov 1984 pogroms happened outside of the Punjab in Delhi as well as multiple cities across India. This is just now coming to light. The majority of Sikhs are from the Punjab and the reality of life is that numbers matter! Khalistan is a universal Sikh issue as it will provide a safe homeland and solid base for all Sikhs. Harinder: I believe there is a saying which goes: "God helps those who help themselves". Let us keep our faith in Waheguru but remember that He also gave us the means both mentally and physically to help ourselves and fight for justice for all! Taking responsibility for one's own future is critical. Otherwise we have seen the result! Also the condition of countries like Israel and Taiwan that you mention are no worse than parts of current India which is riddled with violence and the poor having to live on diets of mud. Let's not embellish the stark truth. In terms of a map of Khalistan, we have an idea of what it will look like (Punjab...) but negotiations either peacefully or otherwise will determine the ultimate outcome. No one knew the shape of India or Pakistan until it was finally carved out! At the moment, the key is to discuss the issue and, as I.J. Singh says, to look at it from all angles. Let us keep an open mind. We are not just thinking about ourselves but the future of our children and our children's children!

23: Gurjender Singh (Maryland, U.S.A.), June 04, 2010, 9:58 AM.

This was and is unfortunate that instead of giving justice to Sikhs for the 1984 Sikh holocaust, the Indian Government is still using excuses in the media such as Khalistan to continue their excesses.

24: Jaimal Singh (France), June 04, 2010, 11:02 AM.

One of the great qualities that Sikhs have is that they are perennially self-examining and self-critical. It does, however, have its extreme manifestation ... almost to the point of self-flagellation, when we can't seem to find a way out of a conundrum. What do you mean we have no leaders? Sikhs around the world sit at the top of every heap, be it political, corporate, entrepreneurial, military, educational, athletic, etc., etc. The only decent leader with impeccable skills and integrity that modern India has had is a Sikh. The only good military leaders India has had in recent history are all Sikhs. The best economists India has had are Sikhs. The best sportsmen India has had are Sikhs. For heaven's sake - all of you sound as if India run by non-Sikhs today is a paradise and we Sikhs, if we had our own nation, wouldn't know what to do with it. Are you kidding? How can one get worse than India? It is close to the bottom of the heap in almost every international index ... check it out for yourselves! The best regime India has ever had was under Ranjit Singh - a Sikh! The best PM India has had is a Sikh - who, single-handedly and against mountains of corruption and lethargy, has turned the country around. All these nation-builders will be available to Sikhs if and when they have a country. Support from the world? The world will flock to you once you're successful ... until then, you'll have to work your butts off. We did, in getting India independent - despite being 2% of the population - and we can still achieve anything to which we set our minds. But first, we have to learn to walk the straight and narrow ... there is no room for the lallu-panjus who currently populate the halls of our dreams! And, for heaven's sake, stop feeling as if you are less than anybody! Remember, if you remain nyaara, each one of you is savaa lakh, you are each a Singh and Kaur, a Sardar and Sardarni. Chardi Kalaa, always ... and there is no stopping us! Who's going to come in our way? The beggars who run India today? Are you serious?

25: Surinder (Massachusetts, U.S.A.), June 04, 2010, 11:13 AM.

N. Singh (Canada), my point about the absence of a Khalistani map is a rhetorical question. I already know why there is no map on the internet: Khalistanis have Pakistan as a primary sponsor of its movement, but Khalistan without Lahore and Nanakana Sahib is a nonsensical idea. So, while showing parts of India as Khalistan is Okay, but showing parts of Pakistan is a no-no for them. This is their dilemma, but since they claim that as Sikhs they embody the greatest virtues of courage and bravery, they are unable to accept that they are either cowardly or have a pact with the devil or accept that their vision of Khalistan is crippled. It is a dilemma they do not want people to know or question.

26: Surinder (Massachusetts, U.S.A.), June 04, 2010, 11:25 AM.

N. Singh (Canada): "Khalistan is a universal Sikh issue as it will provide a safe homeland and solid base for all Sikhs." That is not clear, why it is a universal Sikh issue? On my recent trip to India, I met a Bihari and a UP-ite who had converted to Sikhism and took Pahul. I also met a Sindhi Amrtidhari Sikh. These are not Punjabi. Why would they support bifurcating their own country (India) for the sake of Punjabis? I met many 'white' Sikhs and hold them as friends, they became Sikhs because of its universal pan-human appeal, not because a piece of land needs to be called Khalistan. They see nothing in Sikhism which mandates them to support or fight for Khalistan. It is up to us, do you want to make Sikhism a Punjabi faith only, or do you want it to expand?

27: Bal Singh (London, England), June 04, 2010, 12:06 PM.

Gurteg ji: Go to the villages of Punjab now and ask so called 'lower castes' who are the 'brutal enemies'. I'll give you a clue: they aren't hindus or brahmins, it is our own. Whatever low life behaviour outsiders may exhibit, how do you explain our own behaving like oppressive morons, and that too based on caste, something unequivocally condemned by our Gurus? The truth is that these very people will be the ones who will inherit the levers of power in a Khalistan, so essentially we would be replacing one set of oppressive idiots with another if we hypothetically got a nation today. Before we even think of Khalistan, the dominant peasant group needs to reform itself, because with the existing mindset, Khalistan is very likely to become a place that will shame many of us. We already have a situation where so called low and high castes live in a virtual aparteid in the pinds. This is no brahmin/ hindu boogeyman's fault but our own. Let's not even get into the kurimaar issues and rampant umli-poona going on. Whatever you might say, Khalistan is not about to emerge anytime soon, so we have time to combat any negative trends that have become attached to our quom. We need to concentrate on bringing core Sikh values back to the centre of our community instead of the shortsighted, superficial and materialistic nonsense that Punjabi Sikhs have adopted en masse and pass off as culture. We are in the wilderness like the Jews, at the moment. We should be reflecting on how we got here. The truth is that everything went downhill for us when we met the Anglo imperialists who subverted and weakened Sikh independence to bring us to our current state. The Khalsa, once a proud, capable military force has now dwindled down to martial symbolism. We need tactful, intelligent, independent minded leaders and not sycophants or corrupt materialists and the masses of caste-obsessed morons we currently produce. Let's focus on doing that whilst we are in exile. Why run before we can walk? What puts me off Khalistan the most (and I have been a general supporter for many years), is the patent lack of foresight and intelligence of many of those who are pro. These people haven't fathomed what getting Khalistan will actually involve for Sikhs, especially in a military context. And sucking up to Pakistan is a fool's game also before anyone throws that in. All I know is, right now, we need to up numbers and concentrate on unity. No Khalistan is coming to us before we do this. P.S. - Refusing to lower your own standards through relativism with the debased isn't any form of inferiority complex.

28: Bishen Singh (New Delhi, India), June 04, 2010, 12:26 PM.

Surinder ji: You are confusing religion with politics. If anything, Guru Gobind Singh was - as were his predecessors - cognizant of the need for political power to protect the parameters of a religious faith. Please read his writings on the issue.

29: Surinder (Massachusetts, U.S.A.), June 04, 2010, 12:54 PM.

Bal Singh ji of London: your post is a keeper. You wrote something that I had felt after years of searching in history books where things went wrong. You wrote: "The truth is that everything went downhill for us when we met the Anglo imperialists who subverted and weakened Sikh independence to bring us to our current state. The Khalsa, once a proud, capable military force has now dwindled down to martial symbolism." This is exactly true. The real killer of Khalsa are not the brahmins or the banias, but the English who thoroughly weakened us, to the extent that we Sikhs are even unable to name the real enemy and are fighting imaginary enemies and wasting our energy. (PS: Did you know that the British reduced the size of the kirpan from a full-fledged 3 foot kirpan to the symbolic one we carry now? We still carry British-imposed rules on the Khalsa. We lost Lahore to the British in 1845 - first we lost political control and then 100 years later Sikhs were ethnically cleansed from that city. The list of British-imposed humiliation on Sikhs is long.

30: Surinder (Massachusetts, U.S.A.), June 04, 2010, 12:59 PM.

Bishen Singh ji: Guru Dashmesh Pita Ji did not establish any worldly kingdom, not he asked us to. He won every war he fought and had the army and the military might to become one, if he so desired. But he did not. He voluntararily sacrificed all his four sons who would have been vital if he had any desire to be a worldy king. He was and is a King of all the 3 worlds, all the entire brahmand, he did not have any need to be a worldly king. I am sorry, while Guru Ji asked us to resist evil, he never enjoined us to make Khalistan.

31: N. Singh (Canada), June 04, 2010, 1:04 PM.

Surinder: I think we need to get over the misinformation fed to us by the Indian government about so-called Pakistani involvement in the Khalistani issue. It wasn't the Pakistanis who invaded the Golden Temple and massacred thousands of Sikhs in Nov. 1984 as well as 'disappeared' thousands more during the 'fake encounter' years of 1984-1995. Khalistan is not about Nanakana Sahib or Lahore, it is about the basic human, economic and social rights of the Sikhs. Prior to 1947, certain promises were made to the Sikhs including more autonomy regarding Punjab which have not been fulfilled. We want our 1947 rights ... West Punjab in Pakistan is a whole other kettle of fish and is being used to distract people from the real issue ... India and its abuse of the Sikh nation. Let's leave Pakistan out of it. Did you read the article on the Kabootar [See Humour Section of sikhchic.com]. It might answer your concerns about Indian paranoia about Pakistan.

32: N. Singh (Canada), June 04, 2010, 2:07 PM.

Surinder: I am confused ... is it the Pakistanis or the British who are to blame for all this? ... everyone except the Indians, it would appear from your arguments!

33: Surinder (Massachusetts, U.S.A.), June 04, 2010, 2:07 PM.

N. Singh: Pakistan is a crucial link in the whole saga of Khalistan. I am surpised that you claim it is not so; it is common knowledge. Pakistan injected weapons and men into the troubled spot of Indian Punjab. They hosted all the Khalistani groups. Khalistani "leaders" enjoy unprecedented access to Pakistani politicans, PA & ISI. It is quite well-known. Even Pakistanis don't deny it. When Indian jathas visit our gurdwaras in Pakistan, the Khalistani refugees are all there for people to see. ISI has been one of the biggest sponsors of Khalistan. Ex ISI chief, Javed Nassir was PGPC (Pakistan Gurudwara Prabhandhak Committe) chairman. Why would a Muslim ex-ISI chief be head of PGPC, if everything is innocent? Do not close your eyes, the rhetoric in gurdwaras has a clear pro-Pakistan stance. Now why is Pakistan interested in Khalistan? They hate Sikhs as much, or even more, than Hindus. So, if the Sikhs and Hindus fight, this is their best-case dream scenario. If Sikhs die in the process, it is quite alright by them.

34: Bal SIngh (London, England), June 04, 2010, 2:44 PM.

N.Singh: Have some words with people in the U.K. about the reality of Sikh-Pak relations here before some of you naively talk about jumping in bed with them. If Khalistan is ever to be a reality, it would mean war with both India and potentially Pakistan. If Sikh-Pak relationships in the U.K. are any sort of indicator, getting close to them will bring a whole set of new problems for us. And if Khalistan involves crawling up the backside of people that even an abject simpleton should be able to identify as ill-intentioned, then I want no part of it. Sometimes though, I think that our own politicians are also somewhat responsible for our situation in India as they seem to have no ability to outmaneuver those who stand against us. Is Badal the best we can do? We apparently have the richest state and the hardest workers, yet we still manage to mess things up? As much as we need to condemn the Indians, we need to understand how our own bewakoofs play their part in our current predicament.

35: Gurbux Singh (Chatsworth, U.S.A.), June 04, 2010, 5:01 PM.

It is really amusing to read all these posts by people from all over the world and it is really a joke. I tend to step on people's toes because some cannot handle the truth and are in denial. What is Khalistan? People talking about Khalistan should stand in front of the mirror and see if that is the image Guru Gobind Singh envisioned for the Sikhs. We have people pontificating about the caste system and themselves proudly affix their caste in their name. My simple view is that we should embrace the basics of Sikhi and live it. You do not have to be a scholar in Gurmukhi to be a Sikh. Start by being a Singh/ Kaur and add to the Khalsa saroop. Be unique and nyaara like Guru ji exhorted us to stand out with a turban/ chunni-dupatta on your head of unshorn hair and be proud of being a Sikh. Who will mistake us for a Mexican, Armenian, Arab or Irani if we have the showing of a Sikh? When our numbers multiply, there will be a Khalsa, and Khalistan will follow. Do not follow the so-called leaders who want to rule Khalistan like politicians. Khalistan will evolve out of the Khalsa and we are the Khalsa. Raaj karega Khalsa.

36: Surinder (Massachusetts, U.S.A.), June 04, 2010, 5:59 PM.

Bal Singh: you have said it well. Those Khalistanis who feel enormous amount of tender and loving feelings for Pakistanis need to merely ask some folks from UK what is going on there. Just google k2k (Kaur To Khan). If that is not enough, ask yourself a simple question, how many attacks have happened on the Harmandar Sahib total, and what percentage have originated from the faith of Arabia. What is the state of Gurdwaras in Pakistan? Why were the Sikhs in 1947 running East towards India, and not West towards Pakistan. It is great to love, it is even greater to be innocent, but it is not pretty to see grown up men talk foolishly.

37: N. Singh (Canada), June 04, 2010, 6:00 PM.

Bal Singh: I am familiar with Sikh-Pak relations in the U.K., having grown up there! I am in no way suggesting that Pakistan is our friend but I am trying to show the holes in Surinder's argument that the whole Khalistan issue is a big Pakistani conspiracy. The events of 1947 Partition and the 1984 genocides should teach us one lesson if nothing else and that is that neither Hindu or Muslim is our friend. All the more reason for Khalistan. We will never be respected and be safe until we have our own homeland. Period. [Editor: I think this string of thought has been explored well. Can we leave it and move on to something new, please?]

38: Taran  (London, United Kingdom), June 04, 2010, 6:31 PM.

Surinder ji: Bishen Singh ji has rightly said that you are mixing religion with politics. Guru Gobind Singh never desired to be a king but he did infuse the Khalsa spirit in Sikhs - you are right on that point. Guru Sahib dealt with the issues in those times as he thought was best. However, what now? Are we going to keep on criticizing or just talk about Khlistan? I guess it's time that sikhchic.com should organize a meet, etc. so that we can all put in some time and action as to what should be the course of action be? In my last comment, I clearly said that we need to look beyond Khalistan? Also, Bal Singh has highlighted some of the issues which are affecting us Sikhs more than Khalistan. It's no good to talk about Khalistan when we cannot even hold our house in order. When I say our house, I mean our gurdwaras, our children, youth, caste issues, kuddi maar issues, agricultural debt, education problem in Punjab and even in U.K., Canada and U.S.A. I have seen some uneducated youth in these countries as well. So please, can sikhchic.com oragnize something and may be we should stop writing and do some action and take up some challenges facing our community.

39: I.J Singh (New York, U.S.A.), June 05, 2010, 5:06 AM.

This has been an unprecedented and overwhelming response to an issue that many said has been dead and buried for at least a decade. Yet, it remains very much alive to many people all across the world. It is also true that of the 37 comments, only one comes to us from a reader in India and there seems only a rare observation from a non-Sikh. This should not surprise us. Primarily, it remains a critical issue of internal debate for Sikhs worldwide. It is not that Sikhs in the diaspora are, like Don Quixote, engaged with unrealistic dreams and expectations. It is that the geopolitical realities and the expanse of history and culture cast different shadows in India and Punjab than they do outside in societies that are relatively freer. Many of the readers in the diaspora have experienced directly first hand or indirectly the events that fueled the Sikh insurgency - many of these issues remain unresolved, even though they have receded to the back burner. I would point out that the debate over Israel at its formation was largely fueled by the diaspora Jews. The home-grown Jewish voices were largely silent unless they had found a place outside the territories. It seems to me that even now the positions are not etched in stone; the onus lies on the Indian government and the traditional Indian society - both are relatively opaque institutions. But change is coming, I hope. Many of the fundamental issues - pro and con Khalistan - that I raised remain; they will not be resolved in a day. Let the discussion continue.

40: Rajinder Singh Mangat (Merced/USA), June 05, 2010, 7:32 PM.

All nations that lay claim to be a state have to have at least five minimum requirements. Do Sikhs meet those requirements? [Editor: You forgot to list what these requirements are! Please do so, statinge where you get these requirements from, and explaining how they applied to recent examples of new statehood, please. It'll be most helpful to our readers.]

41: Harmeet Singh Bhullar (Sydney, Australia), June 06, 2010, 8:23 PM.

Rather than making Khalistan, if Khalistanis look after their own families first, it will be good for them and the community. Guru Nanak believed in spreading goodness. If we consolidate ourselves in a narrow contained land, how will our religion grow. Rather than thinking narrowly, we Sikhs should think big. We should focus on the development of our kids. Each family should focus on the education and well being of their kids. This is the only way we can win the world. Most of the Sikhs don't want Khalistan. Why don't these Khalistanis think about development of the community as a whole and address the challenges we are facing, like drug abuse, female foeticide, dowry, honour killings, etc. etc.

42: J. Kaur (United Kingdom), June 07, 2010, 12:08 AM.

Harmeet Singh ji: Instead of blaming the Khalistanis for not thinking, perhaps we are the ones who have not been thinking. Why do you think the challenges that you are talking about have arisen in the Punjab in the last 25 years? Why only in the Punjab compared to other Indian states who are presently enjoying the economic boom? Have you or anyone else actually done a survey to find out who does or doesn't want a Khalistan or is that statement your perception based on those people you know in your circle? Perhaps people are too scared to ask for or talk about Khalistan since being called a Khalistani seems to be used as a 'slur'. When did Sikhs become anything other than Sikhs?

43: Surinder (Massachusetts, U.S.A.), June 07, 2010, 10:42 AM.

In our gurdwara is a tyar-bar-tyar Singh. He made a very perceptive remark. He said that Khalistanis cry over lack of freedom, democracy, right of free expression in India, etc. But in the Khalistani gurdwaras, no alternate view-point is allowed to be expressed; no contrarian view allowed to be said. When well-meaning folks do try to say their view, usually violence is the result. In a Western country, when there is no one to blame, these Khalistanis do not allow freedom of expression, nor entertain any full discusssion on the subject. What will happen when Khalistan does come into existence and these people have absolute power?

44: I.J. Singh (New York, U.S.A.), June 07, 2010, 12:04 PM.

When I wrote this essay (in 1994), both Khalistanis and the anti-Khalistanis were equally unhappy with me. (That told me that I must have been saying something right.) The first group took umbrage with me for presentiing arguments why, in an ideal world, religion-based nation states are not desirable; and the anti-Khalistanis were furious because I had also presented, with some historical precedents, when such nation states that are undesirable become historically necessary and inevitable. Those ideas remain on the table awaiting critical analysis by readers. Instead, we are turning to how good or bad the putative rulers of Khalistan might be or how Khalistanis or anti-Khalistanis might be whitewashing history to suit their respective agenda. It seems to be that the rulers of modern India have not been exemplary and nor have the rulers of the United states over the past two centuries (witness our struggles here about racial and gender equality, etc., in the U.S.A.). Similar observations can be made about pretty much every country. I think in view of the global politico-economic realities, there are broader issues to be parsed than the character flaws of those who are pro or anti Khalistan. What do you think?

45: S. Singh (Canada), June 07, 2010, 12:07 PM.

Surinder: In our community, we now have so many divisions based on caste, etc., that it is irresponsible for people like yourself to create further divisions by labeling those who believe in the idea of Khalistan as 'Khalistanis', as though it was some sort of 'slur', as pointed out by J. Kaur. People on both side of the spectrum, including you, are guilty of letting their emotions run away with them and trying to stamp out other people's points of view. I noticed the way you began to attack N. Singh for her views by making comments such as "It is great to love, it is even greater to be innocent, but it is not pretty to see grown up men talk foolishly", etc. Perhaps you need to hold yourself up to a higher principle before pointing fingers at others! I believe that is the whole point of this discussion.

46: Ravinder Singh Taneja (Westerville, Ohio, U.S.A.), June 07, 2010, 9:41 PM.

The Gurus did not explicitly spell out a nation with boundaries although they spoke of "halemi raj" - which I regard as a call to a new civilization. It seems to me that the loss of a kingdom (Maharja Ranjit Singh) probably shapes our outlook as well, making the idea of a Khalistan attractive. This is not to minimize the mitreatment of Sikhs in free India. Recent pronouncements, including the rather disturbing remarks of Manmohan Singh raising the spectre of Sikh terrorism, is cause for concern. What agenda is behind these statements? Note also Chidambram's initial refusal to grant Sikh militants amnesty - an offer made to other groups. It leaves us wondering. Do we have to fight for things that others take for granted? But we have to also get our own act together. Witness the politics of religion being played out in Punjab by Sikhs themselves.

47: Bibek Singh (Jersey City, U.S.A.), October 01, 2010, 1:25 PM.

Very nice article by respected I.J. Singh ji. I have also read the comments posted here. Really liked the comment by Bibi S. Kaur. It indicates something very serious. Such instances clearly support what Sangat Singh ji wrote in his famous book - "Sikhs in History". He highlighted that the Indian rulers wants all the non-Hindu religions to live within the Hindu framework. I believe religions like Buddhism/ Jainism (or whatever is left of them in India) have clearly accepted that stance for their survival. Sikhism is next in getting threatened with being absorbed into Hinduism. Fortunately, we have some inner strengths - the jury is still out on whether Hinduism will get very far on this mischief vis-a-vis Sikhs. Perhaps Islam might take some time as it has a strong international presence; but I heard that Muslims in India has started participating in Ganesh Utsav and have reversed their mehar/ dowry practices, etc. So what is the pattern? Buddhists and Jains have 'Hinduism' as their new religion in India. Muslims in India have either started to live as per the Hindu framework, or those who did not like, left for the Middle-East. (Bollywood actors like Saif Ali Khan and Aamir Khan were not allowed to purchase land in Mumbai ... so they married Hindu personalities. The world famous artist M F Hussain recently accepted Qatar nationality). Let us review our own situation. Sikhs will not bow down (like Buddhism and Jainism have). Sikhs also do not have options other than Canada/ UK/ US, but know very well that they are minorities in those communities as well. Therefore, perhaps, there is a need for one's 'own home'. Those Sikhs who wish to continue in the same home, have also started following the rules of the game. My mother recently purchased an idol of Guru Nanak. If this is not enough, let me tell you that "OM" in Hindi was written below the idol. So the patterns are loud and clear, and have cut out the work for us. Many comments for this post have requested respected I.J. Singh ji to re-write the article. Let us turn our attention to jugo-jug attal, Guru Granth Sahib. Bhagat Tukaram's bani includes - "Hindoo Andha, Turk Kanna...". Perhaps a revised article may not enlighten us, if our eyes are still closed.

48: Anu Shah (India), December 14, 2010, 6:50 AM.

Is anyone in India allowed to even say that he or she supports the idea of Khalistan? Not in this "democracy"!

49: Amarjeet Singh. (Napier, New Zealand.), December 11, 2011, 1:36 AM.

Guru Gobind Singh wrote: "sri mukh bhaniyo gareeb niwaaz shastar ka adheen hai raaj raj bina na dharam challey hai dharam bina sab dalley malley hai" - 'No one gives political power away ... it is attained only through a position of strength. Without political power, no religion progresses ... and without religion, we are nothing.'

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